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YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.30 15:22:35 -
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My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. What a joke! Not happy! |
YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.02 12:36:27 -
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Dror wrote:Suede wrote:YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy! Just a shame that 10 years playing eve till now we never had any way to buy SP and we eve Vets who have been royal to eve had to train skill for all this time to get to the SP where are now, which we paying sub for all this time Just a bit of joke that CCP letting new player become an 50Mill SP in less then a day is just bit of a joke and total insult to royal player base who been playing since Alpha/Beta and CCP needs to get its priority rights to think more about the royal paying 10 years olds who been with eve all this time, "Guys, SP training is awful, and others should have to do it because we did." Conversely, there's rooting for every character getting max SP.
No that's not the point at all. I'm frustrated because players who have been dedicated to Eve for 4-5years who have higher skill points will be severely punished for gaining SP's this way. If you have over 80mill SP, a Transneural Skill Packet (which will have cost someone 500,00 SP's to create) will only give those, long-term dedicated Eve customers who've invested maybe -ú1000 in subscription payments over the years, just 50k SP's. However that same packet would output the full 500,000 SP's to a much newer Eve player. So say it costs 1billion ISK to buy a Transnerual packet. A new player will pay 1billion isk to receive 500,000 SP. But the long-term Eve player will have to pay 10billion to achieve the same results (they would need 10 of these items because the SP output of the packet is only 1/10th of what it is for lower SP players). Why does CCP think that is acceptable? It's not a fair system.
I don't claim to know what a fair solution is, if CCP want to allow players to buy and sell skill points. But making long-term subscribers who've invested more into the game & helped grown Eve into what it is today should absolutely not be penalized . It's just unfair. Any item in Eve should have the same value to anyone who wants to buy it. You shouldn't simply make an item for a 1 day old toon cost "x" amount, then to make that same item perform the same way for someone else, make it cost "10*x". It's just a failure of a system & it will cause a lot of anger if developed. |
YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.11 14:27:40 -
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This is the thing though. If they decide to implement TSP's, would you still have to pay for an Eve subscription to be able to play? I would literally pay to buy 20mill more ISK and then never pay a single penny to the developers again. That would be awesome. But I just doubt CCP would do that. I think they'd force you to pay to play even without training anything.
One limiting factor of Eve is that you can only re-map once a year. This is SO annoying & unnecessary. If they sacked that off and allowed you to remap, or re-do your existing skill points, then this would suffice. There is no need for TSP's. I am highly against them. |
YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.11 14:32:50 -
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I would also like to know how a post with over 5500 comments on hasn't been updated by the Devs. We want to communicate with you and work with you!! Why is nobody from CCP appearing to care about these responses? |
YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.13 12:24:39 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Levi Belvar wrote:We were on about a way to get players interested more / convert from trial, not using the fleece the current player base more approach. Yours are expensive to aren't they, most are basing figures for 1 plex = 4 TSP / 7.5 days 500k x 4 = 30 days + extractor cost if thats 1 plex for the extractor to theyre going to be silly money Some of us are of the opinion 1 plex = 4 TSP is still crazy expensive (at that rate we're being double charged for the SP being transfered). Consider selling a 5m SP toon is roughly equivalent to 700 AUR for every 500k SP (That's 5 TSPs/PLEX). That's low end on the character bazaar and IMHO not a good place for balancing the 2 features if accessibility is a goal. I'd be willing to take back anything I said about this being more than a money grab were they priced like that. 100AUR or there about should be fine, the low price incentivizes breaking up lower SP characters into packets rather than selling whole and as such helps incentivize more supply on the market vs the Bazaar, which in turn should make the market that much harder to monopolize. Iowa Banshee wrote:The blog says A Transneural Skill Packet is created by extracting some of your trained skills and combining them with a GÇÿTransneural Skill ExtractorGÇÖ which can be purchased in the New Eden Store for Aurum (The Transneural Skill Extractor is analogous to the PLEX service fee in the character bazaar).Both Transneural Skill Extractors and Transneural Skill Packets can be freely traded on the market for ISK
I read it as I plex = 1 TSP - "Analogous to" != equivalent in cost. As I read this, what's being given is the rationale for charging AUR, not a statement of actual cost expectation.
All of this is based on speculation. Nobody has stated how much it will cost per packet. And market prices are down to players to decide. |
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